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Post by Jack on Jan 17, 2013 15:46:24 GMT -5
Right I am just going to come out and say this and TBH guys i couldn't care what you respond to this as I won't change my mind....
I would say I am a fan of John Cena... and I will tell you why:
1) He performs every night, every Raw, most Smackdown's as well as Live events and every time if he is signing an autograph or performing in the ring the same energy goes into it.
2) He puts on shit good matches, I am not going to say Cena is the best technical wrestler in the WWE, that would be stupid. But he is no way the worst as some say. He had 3 of my top 4 matches from last year. Pretty Impressive. People say he is bland, boring, not exciting, well when I re watched the Cena VS Punk, Cena VS Rock and Cena VS Lesnar, Boring didn't come to mind to me.
3) He is a good talker and can have extremely entertaining segments, again he is not the best on the MIC, Punk is by far the best.
People just say "I hate Cena" cause they want to seem "Cool" or like "Lads." You are what I would call a "Bandwagon Fan" a fan who just does what everyone else does cause they say it's the right thing to do.
I frankly don't care what people think about this "Miny Rant" but at the end of the day if you just dislikes someone who busts their ass everyday for you for no VALID reason then well.... *SIGH*
EDIT : This is just IMO, i just wanted to get it of my chest as I am overwhelmed by John Cena haters on utube....
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Post by PhoenixFeathers on Jan 17, 2013 15:56:04 GMT -5
It's not that I hate Cena as a person. I'll admit the man busts his ass every single day, I just hate Cena as a wrestler. He's had good matches, however he's only had good matches with people who can help him work. Not to mention every time he wrestles on Raw or Smackdown he superman's his way trough matches. Take his match with Ziggler 2 weeks ago. Got hit with a Zig Zag, Huge ass DDT and Big E Langstons finisher and he still kicked out. Ya'know what happened after? He got up like nothing ever happened to him and just nails ziggler with an AA and wins. I feel as though the WWE just makes cena this bushy ass superhero who can rise above all occasions. The man never loses clean and if he does it's to guys like the rock. Mic skills are pretty debatable as well. His promos for the most part are all the same. He jokes around, throws around a few cheap pops. Then gets all super serious about Hustle, Loyalty and respect and about how it's nothing but the fans. Then tries to get into a brawl. This is not me just hating on Cena because I hate him, i'm just trying to be honest about why I dislike him, just to prove i'm not a bandwagon jumper.
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Post by Jack on Jan 17, 2013 16:04:03 GMT -5
It's not that I hate Cena as a person. I'll admit the man busts his ass every single day, I just hate Cena as a wrestler. He's had good matches, however he's only had good matches with people who can help him work. Not to mention every time he wrestles on Raw or Smackdown he superman's his way trough matches. Take his match with Ziggler 2 weeks ago. Got hit with a Zig Zag, Huge ass DDT and Big E Langstons finisher and he still kicked out. Ya'know what happened after? He got up like nothing ever happened to him and just nails ziggler with an AA and wins. I feel as though the WWE just makes cena this bushy ass superhero who can rise above all occasions. The man never loses clean and if he does it's to guys like the rock. Mic skills are pretty debatable as well. His promos for the most part are all the same. He jokes around, throws around a few cheap pops. Then gets all super serious about Hustle, Loyalty and respect and about how it's nothing but the fans. Then tries to get into a brawl. This is not me just hating on Cena because I hate him, i'm just trying to be honest about why I dislike him, just to prove i'm not a bandwagon jumper. This is What i mean, as Mr Punk says everyone can have their opinion, and if they properly justify it then I have no problems with it at all. I do actually agree with you. WWE does make peoples "finishers" seem weak by doing things like above. And I personally don't understand that and Was disappointed when that happened. I find Cena's promo's more varied than the Rock's though. At least Cena's have some variation, Rock comes out in every City and does the same act to a "T". Finally.... One on One..... Shut your mouth.... It doesn't matter what you think..... That is personally what is puting me of The Rock atm. However, to be fair, I did Find Rock's concert funny on Raw  |
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Post by tico on Jan 17, 2013 17:22:28 GMT -5
I think the only people that have actually beat cena clean was hbk in 2007 in that long match. Then, CM Punk beat him clean in MITB 2011 and finally the rock beat him clean at WM 28.
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Post by kryo316 on Jan 17, 2013 17:26:29 GMT -5
I think Tico is right
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Post by PhoenixFeathers on Jan 17, 2013 18:32:48 GMT -5
I think the only people that have actually beat cena clean was hbk in 2007 in that long match. Then, CM Punk beat him clean in MITB 2011 and finally the rock beat him clean at WM 28. Punk didn't win clean at Money In the Bank 2011. if Cena didn't go and nail Johnny Ace he would not have won right there. |
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Post by Fetty San on Jan 17, 2013 19:06:16 GMT -5
I am a Cena fan regardless of what people think or what he does as a wrestler/person. Cena has been my favorite since 2002 and will always be my favorite.
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Post by JC Deadly Shot! on Jan 17, 2013 22:52:54 GMT -5
Well I said it on RA but Ill just copy and paste it here anyway.
I am NOT a fan of Cena, I can tell you all that he is not a good wrestler, he can perform, he knows how to work a crowd (Kinda) but he can NOT WRESTLE and when I mean Wrestle I mean he does not have skill in that ring. Lesner VS Cena was a fucking half squash match because Cena got BEAT THE FUCK UP most of it and out of no where Cena won. I found that as a insult to me as fan of the WWE and Wrestling. That how could they possibly make the MMA champion Brock Lesner "Out of nowhere" lose to Cena. Why because Vince loves money. And mostly out of Kids parents pockets. But honestly Thats not the main reason why I dislike him. I started hating him around 2010 because from up until then I thought he was still cool and atleast entertaining. But he slowly, very slowly changed. And not in a good way. You look at all the greats, HBK, HHH, Taker, Kane, Cm Punk, SCSA, Rock, Mick Foley, Daniel Bryan, etc. They CHANGE, they improve, there characters change and get new ideas, Look at the Evolution of the Undertaker. Fucking incredible started out as just a gimmick, then changed as revolutionised the business and himself, then the ministry of darkness came, and then the Badass, then the Dead Man returned and from the very start there was THE STEAK. He has so many things to his name and I dont mean titles, I mean success just by using his mind and creativity. Mick Foley had so many incredible personas and gimmicks to those personas. And everyone had there favourites out of the 3 faces, Some people were waiting for Mankind to come out, maby as a heel or a loveable face, or maby they wanted the King of the Deathmatch, Cactus Jack to come out or Maby the ladies and there husbands wanted some Love in the house and want Dude Love to come out. What ever happened they were on the edge of there seat, Cena has not changed ANYTHING of himself, gimmick, or persona except for a couple t-shirts. I used to love Cena when I was younger, Why? because he was actually changing, first he just seemed like a kid with a dream who also has some "Ruthless Aggression" Then it was getting kinda stale, so he made some fucking awesome raps and had a bunch of kick ass jerseys to come out in. Then when he got the WWE Title, he was still changing and become the kid who is now a man, still is a badass wearing some kick ass shorts, becoming THE MAN. but then when he lost the title, Noting changed when he got it back. And after a while things got stale. He refused to do curtain things because he was already on top. When he became boring he didnt hate him I was disappointed. HHH has always been my favourite and I started watching wrestling when he was a heel and I still loved the Crap out of the Game. Why because he was still changing. He was still doing things for the fans to make them say HOLY Crap in matches and say FUCK YOU when he is on the mic. Cena is a face and people say FUCK YOU to him now. Thats not a good sign. Now I know alot of you people like Cena and Im not saying your bad for liking him. Im just saying why I hate him.
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Post by Jesus of PFI on Jan 18, 2013 3:39:34 GMT -5
I'm in between. I'm not really a fan but I'm not really a hater either.
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